Public Key Podcast

[CHAINALYSIS PODCAST EPISODE 27] Breaking Down the Crypto Regulatory Environment In the USA

Episode 27 of Public Key, the Chainalysis podcast, is here! In this episode, we talk with Alma Angotti  (Partner, Financial Services Global Legislative and Regulatory Risk Leader at Guidehouse) about the evolving regulatory landscape in the USA and the impact it’s having on innovation.


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Public Key Episode 27 Preview: Get the regulators’ perspective on crypto and innovation

With the action picking up in the White House and across the regulatory landscape in the USA, in this episode of Public Key, Ian Andrews ( (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis) has a deep discussion with former regulator, Alma Angotti, who is now Partner, Financial Services Global Legislative and Regulatory Risk Leader at Guidehouse. 

Alma goes through her career working at the SEC, FINCEN and FINRA, and gives us her unique insights as to why regulators have to be cautious when approaching crypto and innovation. Ian and Alma have the age-old debate as to whether crypto is a commodity or a security and the impact that would have on regulatory oversight by the CFTC and SEC. 

Alma even throws in a twist in the Tornado Cash saga and explains why the Department of Commerce could have taken the lead on the sanctions of technology and provides some possible outcomes to the situation. 

Quote of the episode

“People like to criticize the regulators a lot. Now granted, I have spent 25 years in regulatory enforcement roles, so I do have a little bias, but they do have to be careful that they don’t come in too hot and really either overreact to something that’s not going to develop into an important market presence or that they really do cut down innovation.So I think that’s why they’re cautious and  you’ll see that the cases that the CFTC and the SEC brought really are just fraud.” – Alma Angotti (Partner, Financial Services Global Legislative and Regulatory Risk Leader –  Guidehouse)

Minute-by-minute episode breakdown

  • (3:05) – What is Guidehouse and Alma’s first interaction with cryptocurrency
  • (5:50) – Why governments have to be careful not to come in too hot with crypto regulations
  • (10:20) –Traditional Financial Institutions and how they are entering the crypto ecosystem
  • (13:30) – The role that the various USA regulators play in the oversight of digital assets
  • (17:25) –The burning debate of whether cryptocurrency is a commodity or a security
  • (24:25) –Why the Department of Commerce should taken the lead to sanction decentralized mixer, Tornado Cash
  • (29:35) – The balance between privacy and compliance and the role CBDCs could play in the USA financial ecosystem

Related resources

Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key.

  • Blog: Breaking Down the White House Framework on Crypto
  • Article: October is now the biggest month in the biggest year ever for hacking activity.
  • Blog: Managing Financial Crime Risk in the “Wild West”
  • Blog: Crypto Criminals Can’t Hide—Investigative Blockchain Technology Sniffs Out Illicit Activity
  • Blog: New NYDFS Guidance Emphasizes Need for Blockchain Analytics
  • Blog: White House Sets Stage for Responsible Digital Asset Innovation

Speakers on today’s episode

  • Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis) https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianhandrews
  • Alma Angotti  (Partner, Financial Services Global Legislative and Regulatory Risk Leader at Guidehouse) https://www.linkedin.com/in/almaangotti

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